Today I was able to purchase three discs from brands that I'm guessing many of you have never heard of before. I got a Disc Golf Aotearoa Raptor, Daredevil Timberwolf, and Daredevil Wolverine.
I originally had gone to buy just the Timberwolf for an understable fairway/distance driver, but I really shouldn't be trusted when buying discs. I got the Wolverine because it is supposed to be the perfect compliment to the Timberwolf. Then I bought the Raptor just because its from New Zealand and I wanted to try something new. I'd like to speak about new for a moment.
Everyone always wants the latest and the greatest from the biggest. There are many players out there that will only throw Innova, Discraft, Prodigy, or Trilogy companies and they bash people that throw the other brands because they are sub-par. Where did all this come from? I know I started to get sucked into the Trilogy only bag. It took me some time but I did realize that every brand has something to offer. Slowly I have started to get away from all Trilogy and am in the process of making a good attempt at a truly mixed bag. In a previous blog, I displayed what I have in my bag. I had 18 Trilogy (not including all the backup putters), 2 Innova, 1 Kastaplast, and 1 Gateway. Currently I have dropped down to 13 Trilogy, 2 Innova (different than the last post), 2 Discraft, 2 Daredevil Discs, 1 Kastaplast, and 1 Gateway. I also have 3 discs in the mail and 3 others that will vie for a spot in my bag in the next coming weeks. 2 Dynamic Discs, 2 Discraft, 1 Millennium, and 1 Disc Golf Aotearoa. The question that comes to mind after sorting out my bag is, Why do people put so much importance on only one company? Which leads to why do people bash on companies other than the one that they like? The only answer that I believe that should come up is if you are a top level pro and are sponsored by one of these companies. That company sponsored you so you should only throw that. Since most of us are not top level pros and are not sponsored by any companies, why do we then force ourselves in that direction? And why do people bash other companies? Look at the most professional players out there. They don't bash each others companies or each other for throwing something else. Simon Lizzote put up an Instagram video of him throwing putters from 4 different companies and made the profound statement of "Yep, they all work". Here's a link if you haven't seen it. We as disc golfers shouldn't be attacking each other. Instead, we ought to pull together. We ought to not turn people away from the sport with negativity, but draw people into it by the positive fun and friendships that can be made through this sport. Also, if you don't like a company, it doesn't mean that you can bash them for being sub-par. What doesn't work for you may work for many others. I may not like any Innova midranges but that doesn't mean that they don't make good product. I can't look at Paul McBeth and what he's done and then say that Innova makes inferior product because I don't like the midranges. I can't say that Discraft is bad because I haven't found a putter from them that I like. McCabe (back in the day), Doss, and MJ, have proved otherwise. I'll take it even a step further. I haven't seen anyone here throw Legacy so they must be a bad company, right? Let's go watch some highlight reals from Steve Rico and see if that claim holds up. Spoiler alert, it won't. This post has gone into a completely different direction than it was going when I started. I apologize for my rant. Now onto what I was supposed to say.
It is not necessarily the plastic and the molds that make one company great over another. While it may help greatly, it's the perception of how people see companies, and how long a company has been around that matters. So what is it that makes Innova better than Kastaplast, Discraft better than Daredevil, or Trilogy better than ABC Discs? Fullness of disc lines could be an answer, but if I love my Kastaplast Kaxe Z for a midrange/fairway tweener, what makes it worse than something a larger company has to offer? Nothing, its just the perception of the small company probably not having the resources to make a superior product. What I'm getting at is go out there, take a risk on an unknown company. Help the little guys survive because the more disc manufacturers that we have making it, the more our sport can continue to grow. I took a risk with Kastaplast and Daredevil and so far I am loving that I did. I also took a risk with Disc Golf Aotearoa and that hasn't panned out as well as I would have liked, but that is the thrill with the unknown. You have no idea what possibilities may lie ahead of you when you try something different, something new, or something that is not so mainstream. It may work out well in your favor and you'd be happy that you took the leap, but even if it doesn't work out, you took a leap of faith in favor of helping disc golf grow. I also would like to add that while the Disc Golf Aotearoa leap didn't work out for me, a friend of mine is giving it a shot and so far it seems to be working out for him. Your actions of buying into something new may lead your friends into something that they believe is the most fantastic discovery for them since they got into Disc Golf. Lets get rid of brand hatred which is only tearing down the game that we all love, and grow the sport together regardless of what we all throw.
I'm finding that a mixed bag is very freeing. Now I can take any disc I like and I don't have to try to find something within a certain company that might be what I need. All of the companies shown below, and some, have been in my bag at one point, but here is a representation for every company that I still own.
Like a book: Daredevil Discs, Kastaplast, Gateway, Whamo*, Discraft, Westside Discs, Innova Champion Discs, Millennium Golf Discs*, Dynamic Discs, Disc Golf Aotearoa*, Latitude 64.
*Not Currently in the bag. No offense to Whamo, but I don't like the plastic so it won't be in the bag.
Mixed bagging is not about who is the best, but what more I can achieve with different options while helping everyone involved in the sport.
Last but not least, everyone should seriously check out Daredevil Discs. If the rest of their product is as good as my two discs have been, they're worth checking out.
Remember, regardless of what you throw, keep throwing, and grow the sport! Please comment and share this! We at Flying Dutchman Discs want to know what you think and what small brands, if any, you have in your bag.
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Tuesday, September 15, 2015
Check Out Little Companies, Grow the Sport, and Please Excuse My Little Rant.
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Saturday, May 23, 2015
In the Bag: Jeremy Vanderpool
So I realized that I have been blogging quite a bit lately and no one really knows what I have in my bag. Starting off I have a Dynamic Discs Ranger EMac signature edition bag.
In my bag I have:
High Speed Drivers-
WS VIP Air King 155g
DD Lucid Freedom 169g
DD Fuzion Enforcer 173g
DD Lucid Trespass
Innova Champion Destroyer 176g
Innova Pro Destroyer 175g
L64 Opto Blitz
WS VIP Boatman
Fairway Drivers-
DD Lucid Escape 171g
DD TC Biofuzion Theif 173g (x2)
L64 Opto River 165g
L64 Opto River 164g
Midranges-
K K1Line Kaxe Z 174g
L64 Opto Fuse 171g
DD Lucid First Run Verdict with Truth tool 174g
DD Lucid Truth 179g
DD Fuzion Truth 178g
DD Lucid Suspect signed by Eric McCabe (PDGA #11674) 172g
L64 TC Recycled Claymore 175g
Putters-
WS TC BT Medium Shield 175g (x5)
GW Organic Wizard signed by James Litchfield (PDGA #38248) 175g (Given for Birthday)
Mini-
DD Lucid Judge
Right now the Champion Destroyer is in the trial phase and has the possibility of leaving the bag. In the waiting are a Discraft Z Crank and an Innova Champion Vulcan, both of which have previously been in the bag. If I can afford them, or if someone wants to donate:), I am looking for Dynamic Discs Lucid Felon and Justice as an overstable midrange and fairway are missing from my bag. The Felon would almost automatically replace the Champion Destroyer and the Justice would probably replace either the Verdict or the Claymore. This is a chart of my current bag "flight possibilities". I believe that I have a better range than what is shown but maybe I am wrong. Write a comment of what you think that I am missing.
In my bag I have:
High Speed Drivers-
WS VIP Air King 155g
DD Lucid Freedom 169g
DD Fuzion Enforcer 173g
DD Lucid Trespass
Innova Champion Destroyer 176g
Innova Pro Destroyer 175g
L64 Opto Blitz
WS VIP Boatman
Fairway Drivers-
DD Lucid Escape 171g
DD TC Biofuzion Theif 173g (x2)
L64 Opto River 165g
L64 Opto River 164g
Midranges-
K K1Line Kaxe Z 174g
L64 Opto Fuse 171g
DD Lucid First Run Verdict with Truth tool 174g
DD Lucid Truth 179g
DD Fuzion Truth 178g
DD Lucid Suspect signed by Eric McCabe (PDGA #11674) 172g
L64 TC Recycled Claymore 175g
Putters-
WS TC BT Medium Shield 175g (x5)
GW Organic Wizard signed by James Litchfield (PDGA #38248) 175g (Given for Birthday)
Mini-
DD Lucid Judge
Right now the Champion Destroyer is in the trial phase and has the possibility of leaving the bag. In the waiting are a Discraft Z Crank and an Innova Champion Vulcan, both of which have previously been in the bag. If I can afford them, or if someone wants to donate:), I am looking for Dynamic Discs Lucid Felon and Justice as an overstable midrange and fairway are missing from my bag. The Felon would almost automatically replace the Champion Destroyer and the Justice would probably replace either the Verdict or the Claymore. This is a chart of my current bag "flight possibilities". I believe that I have a better range than what is shown but maybe I am wrong. Write a comment of what you think that I am missing.
Innova Archangel: Good or Bad? You decide.
For the first time in the history of Flying Dutchman Disc reviews, I am going to do a review on a disc that I am not too fond of, the Innova Archangel. First off, let me say that this is not a bad disc. This disc was very instrumental for me in learning my backhand and in winning my first tournament and I owe a lot of gratitude to it. This disc gave me the excitement to keep playing and grow in my skill and love for the backhand. It saved me from my disappointment of not being able to throw very far at all (RHBH) and just sticking to throwing forehand. This is a great beginner disc. In fact, I just gave one to my brother and another to a friend that just played with me for the first time. The main reason why I do not like this disc right now, is that it is not a consistent flyer.
Innova gives the Archangel a rating of 8 6 -4 1 and I am honestly not sure what to say about that. Maybe it’s the certain disc that I used or I am just not consistent at all in my throwing, but I never reached anything close to those ratings. From what I have heard and from what these ratings suggest, this should be a good turnover disc that can be used for rollers. It is a good understable disc, but I have never been close to getting it to roll. Most of the time this disc would go dead straight for me. However, often times when I wanted the disc to go straight, it would start to turnover and not land anywhere near the intended target. Because of this I had a newfound joy for this disc in using it for turnover shots. The thing is, that when I wanted it for a turnover shot, it would go dead straight. I would then use it for a straight disc again and it would turnover on me. For some reason I can never get a good read on this disc. It is the only disc for me that I can’t figure out. Maybe its my fault and I just suck, maybe the disc is inconsistent. I’m not sure. One thing's for certain, I do not like this disc. Now this is not to say that it may not make its way back into my bag although it probably won’t, permitting that my Latitude 64 Rivers and my Dynamic Discs Escape stay in my bag. On top of that, I would probably be more likely to put my Innova Monarch back in over the Archangel. I have a more consistent throw with the Monarch. You could say that the Archangel and I have some trust issues.
As for the feel of this disc, it is amazing to hold. The rim is not too thick like the higher speed drivers, or too thin like some midranges and putters, although, I may be biased because I really like the feel of fairway drivers. The top of this disc also has a nice in between feel. I don’t really like anything that has too much of a pop top. I have a Innova Wraith that is grossly over popped and I will never throw it because of the feel. I believe that flat tops are much better than pop tops, but the flat top still feels a bit strange to me. I enjoy throwing a Discraft Flick but it has a little bit of an awkward feel. The Archangel is a perfect inbetween of the Wraith and Flick. It allows for my thumb to have some downward pressure that is difficult for my Flick and impossible with my Wraith.
Overall this is a good beginner disc but not much after that. If I’m perfectly honest it’s probably my consistency that is lacking, but I find that there is not much consistency in this disc’s flight pattern and that is why I believe that it is not good for people that are no longer in their beginning stage. Another downside is the plastic. I believe in a premium plastic bag for a few reasons. I mean, first of all, premium plastics look cooler, but this is a horrible reason. Second, I want my discs to hold their patterns and not break in easily. I want them to last. The Archangel only comes in DX plastic which is Innova's worst line. Some may like the DX, but for me, this is a huge downsize to the disc. I would like to see this disc come out in Champion plastic. The added overstability of the plastic may be what this disc needs to hold a constant straight line. This disc does get an A+ for the feel, but unfortunately for the Archangel, feel alone does not merit a discs position in my bag.
Keep Throwing!
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